The following is an email notification to Jason Sorens, President of the Free State Project, detailing the reasons for why we, Paul and Kitty Antonik Wakfer, will no longer be members, having registered September 9, 2002.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Antonik Wakfer paul@morelife.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:13 PM
To: info@freestateproject.org
Cc: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
Subject: Re: [FSP-Announce] FSP Friends and Members: A Critical Moment
On Tue 7/8/2003 5:28 PM Jason P Sorens wrote:
>
> Well, gang, the moment of the vote is upon us. And while we're
> willing to do all the work involved in this historic vote to choose
> the Free State, we absolutely need your help RIGHT NOW with one thing:
> funding. Getting 5000 ballot packages printed and mailed through a
> professional mailing house will cost approximately $6000. Getting a
> respected third-party firm to handle the vote-counting process is
> another necessary expense - that's another $2000.
>
> The whole process will thus require approximately $8000. Those of you
> who've read our 2nd quarter report know that we had $8000 in the bank
> as of June 20, not counting outstanding obligations, such as
> reimbursement for speakers at the Grand Western and New Hampshire
> Getaway conferences, and printing costs for outreach materials. The
> conferences were definitely worth the money, as was our advertising,
> as you can see by the incredible media coverage we've gotten lately:
> http://www.freestateproject.org/media.htm.
>
> But last week, our Paypal debit card number was stolen, and $2000 in
> charges were racked up by the thief. We are working with Paypal to
> get that money back, but at this critical moment we are suddenly out
> of needed funds.
>
> The long and short of it is that right now, we have access to $2500.
> That means we need to raise at least $5500 by July 20, when we send
> out the ballots. That sounds like a lot, but we are a sizeable
> organization now, and now more than ever, we need your help.
[snip details]
> Thanks for your support! And please act quickly. The FSP's long-term
> financial outlook is great, but we are now in the middle of a cash
> crunch.
>
>
> Jason Sorens, President
> Free State Project
Jason,
Please accept this message as notice of resignation for Kitty and Paul
Antonik Wakfer as "members" (I have always hated the term) of the Free
State Project. Although Kitty and I supported some of the goals of the
Project at the beginning, as it has proceeded we have become quite
disenchanted with the methods being used.
Particularly, Kitty and I thoroughly disagreed with getting 501(c)(3)
status for FSP and for spending so much money on advertising to hurry
the process of enlargement of membership and state selection (as I
already wrote to you before - see appended email below). The result has
been the enrollment of many people who have little knowledge of the
fundamentals of a freedom oriented worldview. This has in turn led to a
great deal of irrational, short-sighted, narrow interest wrangling over
the conduct of the whole process. Still one more example of this is
included in your message above. Speakers who require payment for their
services are not supporting your project and should not have been
sought. It would have been far better to have less polished but more
eager and sincere speakers. As I stated in my previous correspondence
with you (appended) all outreach should be conducted via the WWW where
no printing and mailing costs are incurred. With respect to your
finances it appears that FSP is playing the same "fast and loose" game
that caused the Henry Hazlitt Foundation to go bankrupt and besmirch the
name of one of the most honest, honorable and sincere freedom-fighters
that ever lived.
Now to cap it all off FSP is determined to squander money unnecessarily
on a mailed ballot as you describe in your message which brought on this
response. In this Internet age the whole idea of using a mailed ballot
is ludicrous and reeks of ludditism! Moreover these sorts of large
expenditures are an attraction for the support of special interests
which have some narrow selfish interest to gain through this process,
very similarly to what is to be gained from supporting the government.
Depending on many factors, Kitty and I may still make one of our
domiciles in the state that is chosen. However, we do not wish to vote
for a particular state under the present arrangements (and because there
has been too much rush to decide, in our opinions). If we choose to live
in the chosen state, we will not be taking part in any political
activity there and will be doing our best to persuade others also not to
take part.
--Paul Wakfer
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**Kitty Antonik Wakfer
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [FSP-Announce] The FSP Needs Your Help! New Publicity Push Ready
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:34:12 -0400
From: Paul Antonik Wakfer paul@morelife.org>
Organization: MoreLife
To: info@freestateproject.org
CC: Kitty Antonik Wakfer kitty@morelife.org>
References:
It is certainly good news that you have increased the website traffic,
increased visibility, and increased sign-ups, but I have major
disagreements with what you propose to do as described below. Please do
not be offended by my criticisms below, however, at 64, I have years of
experience with libertarian and other humanitarian (human life
promoting) causes which required large numbers of people to band
together for a single purpose.
[On Mon 9/16/2002 11:07 AM] Jason P Sorens wrote:
>We have several major publicity projects that we would like to
> undertake. The most critical is a membership mailing.
This would be a major waste of money.
> We have members without Internet access who have never heard from us
> since signing up.
When people contact you to sign up, you should tell them that without
Internet access they cannot be properly informed about the current state
of the world and what you are doing. The world is fast transforming
itself into two populations, those who have Internet access and are
highly liquid wrt to new knowledge, and those without Internet access
who will simply be abandoned and left behind.
Moreover, you should not accept those without Internet access because
they also will be of little use in the fight to "capture" a state and
free it, which is yet to come.
> We have about 100 others who have changed email addresses and of whom
> we have lost track.
If they are truly interested, they will find you again and update their
email address. If they do not have the interest and time to do so, then
they will be of little use for the fight of the future. You are better
rid of them, leaving only the serious ones behind.
> It is *essential* that we reach them by mail and put something
> solid in their hands. Our goal is to send a real letter to each of
> you, describing our progress and including goodies like a membership
> card and logo sticker.
More waste of money and time resources. If people want these things,
then they will be willing to pay for them. For example, I would be
willing to pay for a bumper sticker and place it on my new car. However,
I will not contribute funds to subsidize "goodies" for people who may
not even want them!
> The mailing will also allow us to conduct a membership poll
> on important issues like a proposed 2003 national meeting.
There is software that will easily allow you to do that using the
Internet alone (eg. any Yahoo group has a poll taking facility allowing
only one vote per member). Thus, a simple email message like this one to
members will allow a poll to be taken. It will also allow give you a
much better return rate since it is a lot simpler to respond to than
would be a snail-mail poll.
> After we do the membership mailing, we need to undertake more
> advertising.
You can do all the advertising that you need for free by posting to
related newsgroups, Yahoo groups and website forums.
> As you may know, we will be placing a full-page ad on the back cover
> of the November edition of "Liberty." We want to follow that ad up
> with more ads: in "Reason," "Liberty," "LP News," "The New American,"
> "The Free American," and "Chronicles."
You may want to do this (and I am not against the idea), but I am not
willing to pay for any of it.
> We are also placing a $625 ad in the newsletter of the Federalist
> Society, for which Secretary Steve Cobb has pledged to pay for half.
Good for him! Those who want to see these things done should be prepared
to pay for them. But I still say this is a waste of money before you
have tried all the other avenues. What attracted my wife and I and led
to our sign-up were simple mentions in Freedom Daily News.
> Once we've achieved a good deal of name
> recognition throughout the libertarian and constitutionalist
> community, we need to do professional mailings to rented lists.
And by doing so you are likely to get a whole bunch of people who do not
really fit the fundamental libertarian mold of those who are needed to
make this whole thing work by being steadfast to our purpose of a
completely non-coercive government. We do not want to dilute the rigor
of those signing up.
> These mailings will contain the Statement of Intent and make it easy
> for people to sign up.
The easier that you make it, the lazier and less earnest will be those
who sign up, and the less likely you will be to succeed in the end.
> Finally, we want to set up a regular hard-copy newsletter that we can
> send out to everyone on a regular basis.
More waste. Send out an email newsletter instead.
> But all of this is very expensive!
That is one reason why you should *not* do it.
> Our first membership mailing will cost $4000, and advertising will
> cost at least $1200 per month. Those figures
> do not include any convention appearances, any costs for the proposed
> national meeting, mailing out a regular newsletter, or direct-mail
> campaigns to rented lists of libertarian names.
Do the free and cheap things until you have built up a base of very
solid supporters. If you cannot get your 20,000 people *without* all
that expensive effort, you are most likely doomed to fail in your final
purpose, because the philosophical rigor of those signed up will be too
dilute. In the end, they will compromise for likely minor gains in
freedom rather than steadfastly insisting on the original goal.
> Those of you who have been a part of the FSP for a long time know that
> we have never asked every member to donate something to the cause.
And that likely means that many of them will be unhappy with this turn
of events as am I. (Although my wife and I only signed up within the
past few weeks, I became aware of the project several months ago. And
many years ago I loaned a substantial sum of money to the originator of
the Oceania Project, which has never been repaid.)
> We are doing so now. If every Member and Friend of the Free State
> Project can respond to this e-mail with a $25 donation, we can pay for
> the membership mailing and a full round of advertising.
You need to find a way to organize yourself as a business which will
finance whatever you need. If you cannot do that, then you are not being
consistent with your goals and your project is doomed to failure.
I note that you do already have things for sale on your website. You
need to promote this and increase the number of things for sale in a
direction which is related to your goals.
> To fund our other projects we will need to focus on new members
> generated by these efforts, and on high-capacity donors - but we can't
> show these donors that we are serious unless we lay the groundwork by
> renewing ties with the membership and promoting our idea through
> advertising.
This sounds life every other project that I have heard about, except my
own Prometheus Project (which, granted, did not succeed). If those
"high-capacity" donors do not have the philosophical sense and guts to
do something *right now* (as you and I are doing) then you do not want
them!! If the periodicals in which you wish to advertise do not have the
interest to give you *free space* as a service to their readership, then
you don't want to be in their magazine!
> Everyone who contributes $50 to the FSP will receive a free t-shirt,
> so that when your children ask if you participated in the 2nd American
> Revolution, you can say, "Been There, Freed That, Got the T-Shirt!"
Ridiculous! SELL the T-shirt! The definition of market value is what
people are willing to pay. Giving away anything reduces its value and
wastes it. Including it as an incentive to cause a donation will have
the effect that some people will receive a T-shirt but do not value it
sufficiently to have purchased it *and* donated the difference between
its purchase price and what they did donate. Thus, you have received
less value for the T-shirt than you should/could have.
And don't appeal to irrational motives. All this does is cause more
inappropriate people to be recruited.
> (To receive the t-shirt, just make sure to send along your mailing
> address.) If you can contribute $100, we will also honor you publicly
> on our website, if approved by you.
Much better to honor those who are responsible for bringing in solid new
members (if you must honor anyone at all in this sort of other-oriented
manner).
> Many officers, directors, and committee
> members, including myself, have pledged to donate $100.
You are to be commended. You are putting your money where your mouth is.
I have always done the same. I put all my money into financing the
freedom and life enhancing/extending activities which I do and their
promotion to others.
> A few of you have already sent in donations in the past few days;
> thank you! You have done your part.
Until you need more donations, that is! This is what will eventually
cause people to be fed up and leave. It is what will cause many to not
even join. Few people like to be continually hounded for donations, but
they are happy to have things to purchase. *When* they purchase, a
simple additional option for a small donation would be appropriate.
> To contribute by check, please make your check out to "Free State
> Project" and mail it to: Debra Ricketts, Treasurer, Free State
> Project, 565 College Drive, Suite #C-160, Henderson, NV 89015.
>
> To contribute securely over the Internet using a credit card or bank
> account, you can use Paypal or the Amazon.com honor system. Go to
> http://www.paypal.com to use Paypal and send your contribution to the
> email address info@freestateproject.org. Go here to use the
> Amazon.com honor system:
> http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/pay/T1VTESXD3KGCTW .
>
> Finally, we also accept e-gold (http://www.e-gold.com), account number
> 479789.
>
> Thank you for your commitment to the battle for freedom - we _will_
> see a free society in North America within a generation.
Only if you act in free-market oriented ways that will consistently
accomplish it.
Paul Wakfer
MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for More Life in quantity & quality
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Subject: Re: [FSP-Announce] The FSP Needs Your Help! New Publicity Push Ready
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:53:12 -0400
From: "Elizabeth McKinstry" emckinst@hotmail.com>
To: paul@morelife.org
CC: emckinst@hotmail.com
Hello --
Thank you for writing and expressing your concerns about our upcoming
mailing and ad campaign.
I want to assure you that we have thought long and hard about our
direction and planned expenditures. We do not want reaching 20,000
signers to cost a cent more than necessary. At the same time, we are
relying on advice from people who are experienced in the operation of
libertarian nonprofits. There are several reasons we find it necessary
to undertake a membership mailing and an ad campaign.
First, many people simply do not spend a great deal of time on the Web.
To date, only people who do a large amount of Web-surfing have found out
about us. This does not mean that all those who have not heard about us
or are not familiar with Internet technologies are not committed to the
ideals of freedom and would not make excellent activists in the Free
State. Much of the activism that we will undertake will be out in the
streets, in face-to-face meetings, through letter-writing campaigns, and
so on. Politicians, voters, and other decision-makers often do not take
"electronic activism" seriously because it is low-cost.
Second, many people have been waiting to see how serious an idea this
is. Our ability to get our message into major libertarian publications is
an important indicator of our seriousness, and it will make people who have
been wary of getting involved in a new project like this - particularly
those "big-name" libertarians who will be putting their reputations on
the line by endorsing us - more comfortable and enthusiastic about
supporting us publicly.
Third, we have a limited time frame. We are trying to reach 20,000
signatures as soon as possible. I believe we should use whatever
methods are most effective to this goal. Remember that it took the
Libertarian Party 20 years to reach 20,000 members. We are trying to reach an
additional 19,000 participants in four years - and we require more of
our participants than does the Libertarian Party, we're asking them to move!
To reach 20,000 by September 2006 we will need to generate about 15
signups per day, meaning about 1500 website visitors a day at least,
based on current ratios of visitors to signups.
We cannot generate that kind of traffic simply by posting in newsgroups,
sending emails to friends, and the like. We've been doing these things
already, and we need to take the campaign to the next level. We need to
get big-name libertarians on board, and we need to get the "Free State
Project" in the minds of every libertarian out there.
We also can't expect any kind of free publicity in liberty-oriented
publications. These publications are bombarded with requests for
publicity from other organizations. We have to show them that we are
different. We start by showing that we are a responsible organization
that isn't looking for a handout and that can pay its bills. Magazines
like "Liberty" deserve our support; they run on advertising. Once we
pay for some advertising, the editors of these publications will be more
interested in giving us free publicity, by publishing our press
releases, critiquing our proposals, and the like. We have to show that we
are serious first.
The Free State Project is in the situation of a nonprofit organization
in a completely free market. If people don't like what we are doing, we
will lose contributions. If *you* don't like one of the things we are
planning, you can direct your contribution to something else or withhold
your contribution. However, the FSP is much more cost-effective than
any other libertarian organization of our size. We don't have a paid staff,
though we may require hiring a person or two to keep track of everything
once we grow to a larger size. Most nonprofit organizations with 1000
members have budgets ranging up to about a million dollars. The
Libertarian Party has a budget of $4-5 million with about 30,000
members.
Our expenses are far less.
We value your suggestions and encourage public debate on all these
issues. Please stop by one of our forums if you would like to discuss our
publicity plans further. The leadership of the FSP, such as it is, will
always heed the desires of our membership: if people are clearly opposed
to a course of action, we will not undertake it.
Best,
Elizabeth McKinstry
VP, FSP
http://www.freestateproject.org
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Wakfer paul@morelife.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 7:09 AM
To: "Elizabeth McKinstry" emckinst@hotmail.com>
Cc: Kitty Antonik Wakfer kitty@morelife.org>
Subject: Re: [FSP-Announce] The FSP Needs Your Help! New Publicity Push Ready
It was a mistake on my part that I never replied to this message last
September. I was getting ready to go on an extended trip and I was
simply letting such things "go" at that time. This was a mistake I have
now rectified with renewed focus on changing the current doomed social
order.
In the future, please answer my points inline instead of replying with
what appears to be a form letter to clearly a substantial number of
people who must have protested during the 8 days between my initial
message to Jason and your response.
[On Tue, 24 Sep 2002] Elizabeth McKinstry wrote:
> Hello --
> Thank you for writing and expressing your concerns about our upcoming
> mailing and ad campaign.
> I want to assure you that we have thought long and hard about our
> direction and planned expenditures. We do not want reaching 20,000
> signers to cost a cent more than necessary. At the same time, we are
> relying on advice from people who are experienced in the operation of
> libertarian nonprofits.
There are two reasons that you should be leery of such "advice".
First, few of these nonprofits have had any great "success" (in the
sense of achieving major changes in society) and some of them have even
gone into bankruptcy. At least part of the reasons for some of these
"failures" is the fact that they were nonprofits.
Second, your organization is not like any of the other libertarian
nonprofits. It is essentially different in kind. Its purpose is purely
to inform and encourage a decision and a movement of libertarians to a
chosen location.
> There are several reasons we find it necessary
> to undertake a membership mailing and an ad campaign.
> First, many people simply do not spend a great deal of time on the Web.
These people will therefore not be knowledgeable enough about current
events both libertarian and in the world at large to be qualified to
make a good decision and should not be part of those you wish to attract
and to want to help you choose the state.
> To date, only people who do a large amount of Web-surfing have found out
> about us.
No. I do not do a lot of "web-surfing" by any means. You have had
coverage in most of the libertarian news services and could have much
more with a little effort.
> This does not mean that all those who have not heard about us
> or are not familiar with Internet technologies are not committed to the
> ideals of freedom and would not make excellent activists in the Free
> State.
The ones who are on the Internet will find you eventually if you simply
use the libertarian web services that are available to everyone. Write
columns for sites and post messages on forums.
The ones who "are not familiar with Internet technologies" *can not* be
fully "committed to the ideals of freedom" and *will not* "make
excellent activists in the Free State".
The Internet has made such a fundamental difference in the
communication, information and knowledge capabilities of the world, that
no one who is not using it *can* be fully informed and rationally choosing.
> Much of the activism that we will undertake will be out in the
> streets, in face-to-face meetings, through letter-writing campaigns, and
> so on.
As I have tried to convince you, that is a *serious* mistake.
> Politicians, voters, and other decision-makers often do not take
> "electronic activism" seriously because it is low-cost.
And "freedom fighters" should learn to use that flaw against them,
before they *do* begin to realize how seriously they should take it!
In any case, I sincerely hope you are not intending to mimic the actions
of politicians!
> Second, many people have been waiting to see how serious an idea this
> is. Our ability to get our message into major libertarian publications
> is an important indicator of our seriousness,
You are confusing seriousness or importance of an idea with the amount
of work people are willing to do to promote it. These are not at all the
same and are often quite unrelated. If an idea is truly important it
simply needs to be circulated and its importance will be seen and
promoted automatically because it is valuable. One cannot "force" value
onto people. The value of ideas will be determined by how many people
adopt them because of reason alone.
As I said before, since your project has nothing to "sell" and brings no
commercial value to its creators, libertarian publications should
accept it as news at no charge if it is worthy. To the extent they will
not accept it, this shows that either the *idea* is not of great value,
or the operators of the publication are not very good at understanding
which ideas are valuable. In that latter case, you should not want
publicity there anyway.
> and it will make people who have
> been wary of getting involved in a new project like this - particularly
> those "big-name" libertarians who will be putting their reputations on
> the line by endorsing us - more comfortable and enthusiastic about
> supporting us publicly.
If they are so cowardly, why would you want their support?
Surely you want reason and rationality rather than "big-names"! Again
this sounds exactly like the thinking of any petty politician.
> Third, we have a limited time frame. We are trying to reach 20,000
> signatures as soon as possible.
Why? This was a completely unnecessary limitation of the project from
the start. You cannot force people's thinking! This is also why your
statement of intent makes no sense if you really think that it will bind
people for 3 years, but suddenly at the end of 3 years everyone will no
longer want to make the move. What good would people be who moved on the
basis of some guilt feelings because they had signed an oath? Do your
really think such people would be beneficial for your goals?
> I believe we should use whatever methods are most effective to this
> goal. Remember that it took the Libertarian
> Party 20 years to reach 20,000 members. We are trying to reach an
> additional 19,000 participants in four years - and we require more of
> our participants than does the Libertarian Party, we're asking them to
> move!
Why the rush to do it in 4 years? In order to work and be of any value,
ideas must necessarily take much longer than that. Besides your example
of the Libertarian Party is completely off the mark. There were far more
that 20,000 "libertarians" even before the LP began. There are many
reasons why they did not become *members* of the LP which are totally
unrelated to what your project is trying to accomplish.
Once more you are acting like a politician - weaving words without any real sense behind them.
> To reach 20,000 by September 2006 we will need to generate about 15
> signups per day, meaning about 1500 website visitors a day at least,
> based on current ratios of visitors to signups.
There was no need for such a deadline. But in any case, it will not be
done at the rate of 15 per day. Have you never heard of exponential
growth? If your idea is worthy it will grow exponentially by word of
mouth if nothing else. *That* is what you should be promoting!
> We cannot generate that kind of traffic simply by posting in newsgroups,
> sending emails to friends, and the like. We've been doing these things
> already, and we need to take the campaign to the next level.
I have not seen any major articles by you yet on various sites or on
forums. Why don't you organize the supporters that you have to do those
things everywhere.
> We need to
> get big-name libertarians on board, and we need to get the "Free State
> Project" in the minds of every libertarian out there.
Spoken just like a politician!
> We also can't expect any kind of free publicity in liberty-oriented
> publications. These publications are bombarded with requests for
> publicity from other organizations. We have to show them that we are
> different.
FSP *is* different. It has nothing material to gain from any publicity.
It is a public service and will be news when its idea begins to grow as
it will if it is a valuable idea. FSP should be prepared to stand or
fall on the value of its ideas in free exchange with others.
> We start by showing that we are a responsible organization
> that isn't looking for a handout and that can pay its bills.
This is contradictory. Your appeals to "members" are exactly that -
"looking for a handout". You are again using all the language of
governments and politicians. I am a sovereign individual. I am not a
part of some collective "entity". Not the Free State Project or anything
else.
> Magazines > like "Liberty" deserve our support; they run on advertising.
Supporting them has no relationship to the FSP's goals. It is up to each
or us as individuals to decide. Besides, their advertising is generally
for things which are profit making.
> Once we
> pay for some advertising, the editors of these publications will be more
> interested in giving us free publicity, by publishing our press
> releases, critiquing our proposals, and the like. We have to show that
> we are serious first.
More of the same nonsense which I answered above. To the extent they
won't support FSP and publish information about it on the strength of
its value to their readers, FSP is better off without them.
> The Free State Project is in the situation of a nonprofit organization
> in a completely free market.
This is a contradiction in terms! In a completely free market, there
would not be any nonprofits! You need to read some von Mises.
> If people don't like what we are doing, we
> will lose contributions. If *you* don't like one of the things we are
> planning, you can direct your contribution to something else or withhold
> your contribution. However, the FSP is much more cost-effective than
> any other libertarian organization of our size.
So what? You won't gain anything by simply trying to be the best of a bad lot.
> We don't have a paid
> staff, though we may require hiring a person or two to keep track of
> everything once we grow to a larger size. Most nonprofit organizations
> with 1000 members have budgets ranging up to about a million dollars.
And most of those are organizations which do something which produces
tangible value for their members and requires money. They are simply
joint purchasing organizations. FSP is not like any of those.
> The Libertarian Party has a budget of $4-5 million with about 30,000
> members.
Frankly I couldn't care less about the LP. It's methods and approach are
all wrong. I had hoped that FSP would be different and better.
> Our expenses are far less.
> We value your suggestions and encourage public debate on all these
> issues.
Since you have not altered anything as a response to such suggestions,
this is disingenuous at the least.
> Please stop by one of our forums if you would like to discuss our
> publicity plans further. The leadership of the FSP, such as it is, will
> always heed the desires of our membership: if people are clearly opposed
> to a course of action, we will not undertake it.
Last September I did not have the time to do so. Although these ideas
are now more important to me, I still have better use of my time than to
try to correct the thinking of people such as you who are so far off
base. I will simply put my ideas out there for others to see and learn
from as they can. Something which you are clearly afraid to do.
> Best,
> Elizabeth McKinstry
> VP, FSP
> http://www.freestateproject.org
This will also become a portion of the "Freedom Dialogues" at the
Self-Sovereign Individual Project website and posted elsewhere on the
Internet as appropriate.
--Paul Wakfer
MoreLife for the rational - http://morelife.org
Reality based tools for more life in quantity and quality
The Self-Sovereign Individual Project - http://selfsip.org
Rational freedom by self-sovereignty & social contracting
