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A Freedom Dialogue


Exchange regarding Rejection of FSP Resignation Notification to FSP Yahoo Group


The following is the rejection message I (Kitty) received from Elizabeth McKinstry (Vice-President of the Free State Project and moderator of the official FSP Yahoo Group) and my response, to which at this time there has been no reply. The content of my reply is self-explanatory.


-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth [mailto:emckinst@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:11 PM
To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
Subject: Message not approved: Resignation from Free State Project

Hi Kitty and Paul -- since this is personal, it doesn't really belong on the business list. I'm very sorry to hear you are reneging on your commitment -- your posts have always been insightful, and I have been impressed with your point of view. I'm not sure that you provide any reasons I would agree are worth splitting with the FSP for -- disagreements about marketing policy? -- but obviously to you the differences are worth breaking your promise for. Best of luck.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kitty Antonik Wakfer [mailto:kitty@morelife.org]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:24 PM
To: Elizabeth
Cc: Paul Wakfer
Subject: RE: Message not approved: Resignation from Free State Project

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elizabeth [mailto:emckinst@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 9:11 PM
> To: Kitty Antonik Wakfer
> Subject: Message not approved: Resignation from Free State Project

> Hi Kitty and Paul -- since this is personal, it doesn't really belong
> on the business list.

I actually expected that you would refuse to post this message and you have shown that my expectation was correct - you do not wish to let the membership know that there are knowledgeable others who do not agree with the practices of FSP - *and* why. And furthermore that they have resigned rather than continue as part of an organization with leadership demonstrating such poor judgment (sloppy business methods, needless haste, unnecessary expenditures, etc), in short so many of the same characteristics that politicians everywhere exhibit that have been instrumental in getting the US to the state it is in.

This *is* "FSP-specific issues" as is one of the stated purposes of the "official FSP Yahoo group. It is not a mere "personal" issue!

> I'm very sorry to hear you are reneging on
> your commitment

Every contract has an escape clause - one can always resign, so long as one returns the value that has been received according to the terms of the contract. And what Paul and I signed was a Statement of Intent, not a blood oath to the death. FSP has given us no money or other value to bind us in any way. In fact FSP has been fraudulent by not continuing to use rational libertarian methods to work towards the stated goals, eg. becoming a 501(c)(3) after we became members. We regret we did not immediately resign at that time. If you want to criticize us, then it would be appropriate to do so for us not being consistent and resigning at *that* time. In fact, we did not expect to receive any value in return *until* we moved to the chosen state, and that is why we were very concerned about all the money the people were willing to spend on this effort which might leave them with nothing, just becoming another disillusioned group that had been had. As it is, we see a negative value in the whole FSP project at this time and that is why we are resigning.

Are you saying that one can not **resign** from FSP - that one must be signed up for life??!! This is ludicrous and without a shred of reasoned thinking.

> -- your posts have always been insightful, and I
> have been impressed with your point of view.

You have obviously not understood the principles upon which my and Paul's views rest.

> I'm not sure that
> you provide any reasons I would agree are worth splitting with
> the FSP for -- disagreements about marketing policy? -- but
> obviously to you the differences are worth breaking your promise
> for.

You are trivializing the reasons for our resignation which obviously make it easier for you to excuse to others. The whole rush by FSP to this vote (which was not needed for 2 more years even by the Participation Guidelines) is totally unnecessary and has encouraged large participation by the least principled liberty oriented individuals. The entire project has demonstrated great evidence of a well marketed philosophical sham. Besides we are not asking for *your* agreement and we do not need it. It is *our* liberty and *our* decision based on our *reasoning*.

Once again, we have every right to resign from any organization when we think it is in our widest view longest range interest to do so and as long as we repay any obligation of debt. We owe FSP *no* debt. The Statement of Intent we signed did not obligate us to unresignable membership in FSP; we would not have signed it had it done so. As Paul very clearly stated, "Depending on many factors, Kitty and I may still make one of our domiciles in the state that is chosen." We just will no longer be a member of FSP and will make our well considered dissatisfaction with the organization known on the Internet.

> Best of luck.

We make our own "luck" and it is based on consistent reasoned principled thinking - something the leadership of FSP is sorely lacking, or at least not demonstrating.

**Kitty Antonik Wakfer
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PS This exchange will be added to the already initiated (not yet uploaded) Freedom Dialogues at Self-Sovereign Individual Project.